Which hosting to move to?

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by: Jaroslav Bachorik
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Posted: January 28, 2010 07:55 by Jaroslav Bachorik
Given the fact that Oracle will (in near future) phase out the public kenai.com service (http://bit.ly/b4csxI) we should, probably, look for a project hosting service with longer life span.
The two alternatives I can name from top my head would be:


The good thing is that they have support for Mercurial. I am not sure about migrating JIRA issues but at least *Google Code* has a public data api so it shouldn't be too hard to pour issues dumped from *kenai.com* JIRA into it.

Your thoughts, please....
 
Posted: January 28, 2010 08:43 by basil3whitehouse
I'd consider BitBucket. It's a Mercurial based forge, has wiki and issue tracker, plus the ability for others to easily create branches and pull requests, which IIRC Google Code doesn't have.

http://bitbucket.org/
 
Posted: January 28, 2010 11:09 by joachimhskeie
BitBucket is a good host. Also Codehaus is a good host with a full Atlassian stack of software. The downside is their long acceptace times for new projects though.

Wikipedia have a nice overview:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_software_hosting_facilities
 
Posted: February 03, 2010 01:12 by Bruce Schubert
Hi,

I'm unable to look at your new BTrace project on JavaForge.net I think you need to go to your project's Admin page to open up the permissions so others can look at the project -- unless of course it's private.

-- Bruce
 
Posted: February 03, 2010 08:08 by Jaroslav Bachorik
Ok. It's open to public without approval now
 
Posted: February 03, 2010 12:36 by joachimhskeie
I am getting the following:

User 'anonymous' has no permission to access project with id=3189

Once I log in to JavaForge I get:

User 'Joachim Haagen Skeie' has no permission to access project with id=3189
 
Posted: February 03, 2010 12:57 by Jaroslav Bachorik
It seems that is harder to setup than I thought Smile It should work now - anonymous users have the default read-only access.
 
Posted: February 03, 2010 13:17 by joachimhskeie
I cannot open the link obove, but http://www.javaforge.com/project/btrace works OK.

However, I now also have EDIT privileges to the WIKI. (I added my initials JHS to the front page). I am also unable to find any source code, but that might be intentional At the moment Smile
 
Posted: February 02, 2010 19:51 by Jaroslav Bachorik
I've setup a placeholder for BTrace project on JavaForge
It is the closest match to the functionality provided by kenai.com I was able to find. And it adds some nice extras to it (like a continuous build server).
Plz, try the new location out and let me know your opinion.

JB
 
Posted: February 06, 2010 07:20 by joachimhskeie
According to Oracle, java.net might be the best option ?

Got this email this morning:

Gentlepeople,

In an effort to get information out to the Kenai community quickly, while trying to manage the integration of our two companies, I think we did a poor job at communicating our plans for Kenai.com to you. I would like to remedy that now. Our strategy is simple. We don't believe it makes sense to continue investing in multiple hosted development sites that are basically doing the same thing. Our plan is to shut down kenai.com and focus our efforts on java.net as the hosted development community. We are in the process of migrating java.net to the kenai technology. This means that any project currently hosted on kenai.com will be able to continue as you are on java.net. We are still working out the technical details, but the goal is to make this migration as seamless as possible for the current kenai.com projects. So in the meantime I suggest that you stay put on kenai.com and let us work through the details and get back to you later this month.

Thanks for your feedback and patience.

Ted Farrell
Oracle Corporation
 
Posted: February 09, 2010 17:58 by Matthew McCullough
I love this project as you all know... I'd either rather see it stay on Kenai technology over at Java.net, or move to GitHub. I have to say that the JavaForge page is very confusing. I couldn't locate the link for the source after a minute of glancing. Ouch! I am totally enjoying the experience over at GitHub for the 30 or so projects that I work on there... The have one of the best UIs of any developer-centric web app.
 
Posted: June 15, 2011 21:38 by Joseph Pallas
As a fan of BTrace, I'm a little concerned that it still doesn't have a permanent home. The new java.net may not be perfect, but it seems like a reasonable home with the benefit of good visibility in the Java community and migration support.

Are we any closer to a long-term plan?

Disclaimer: I'm an Oracle employee, but I have nothing to do with java.net or with Java except as a user.
 
Posted: June 16, 2011 09:45 by Jaroslav Bachorik
Well, for now the project will stay on kenai.com. I haven't got any indications of the site being closed in near future. But I would not be opposed to moving BTrace to java.net once there are migration tools available - transferring mercurial repositories is a no-brainer but the real tough task is to move wiki, discussion forums and member lists in a more pleasant way than printing it out and then typing all the data in. There is no support for even dumping the data from kenai.com - at least I don't know of any such support Frown
 
Posted: June 17, 2011 02:26 by Joseph Pallas
I thought there was supposed to be migration support (http://blogs.oracle.com/projectkenai/entry/the_future_of_kenai_com), but that may have changed. You might try contacting communitymanager@java.net.
 
Posted: June 17, 2011 11:28 by Jaroslav Bachorik
I did that. I am also an Oracle employee so I had direct conversation with the people from the kenai team. Unfortunately, there were no migration options for kenai.com projects (as opposed as those hosted on java.net which where migrated by the java.net/kenai team).
As I said earlier - till there is a clear indication of kenai.com being discontinued with clearly stated migration paths I wouldn't spend time and energy on trying to move BTrace to java.net by hand.

-JB-
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