Re: Mocking framework

[Brian Guthrie <btguthrie@gmail.com>]

On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Ola Bini <ola.bini@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Okay, I've modified the should receive syntax to perform in the way
> > you suggested and pushed it up to Github, although 'foo expects'  
> > still
> > works.  Would it be better to just go whole-hog and throw it out?  I
> > just feel burned by the mocha vs. RSpec mocking religious war in the
> > Ruby world but since we have a chance to start over here maybe I'm
> > over-thinking it.
> >
> > I think I'm going to provide a mock() primitive for easy mock  
> > creation
> > through a hash primitive, but I'm left with a question about syntax
> > that's been bugging me.  The with() macro accepts a JS-style hash- 
> > like
> > syntax that appears to require special handling to support (arg name
> > asText[0..0-2]) and doesn't have wider support in the codebase  
> > AFAICT.
> > Is that the kind of syntax you'd expect to see from a call to mock?
> > Or should it just accept a plain old hash?  E.g.
> >
> > foo = mock(foo: "bar", baz: "qux") vs.
> > foo = mock(:foo => "bar", :baz => "qux")
> >
> > or am I barking up the wrong tree entirely?  Ola, did you have a more
> > succinct syntax you imagined for that kind of a construct?  Or is
> > with() a failed experiment?  I don't see it referenced anywhere in  
> > the
> > wiki guide.
>
> Taking this to the mailing lists - since its of general interest.
> First, mocking. Well, community, what do you think? I don't have a  
> strong opinion.
>
> Second, the with-macro could almost be implemented as regular  
> keyword arguments. The reason it is not is that doing it this way  
> allow you to intersperse regular code with the arguments. So, you  
> can do:
>
> Origin with(foo: 42,
> "hello world" println)
>
> it is not a failed experiment, it just isn't documented. =)
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Ola Bini (http://olabini.com) Ioke creator (http://ioke.org)
> JRuby Core Developer (http://jruby.org)
> Developer, ThoughtWorks Studios (http://studios.thoughtworks.com)
> Practical JRuby on Rails (http://apress.com/book/view/9781590598818)
>
> "Yields falsehood when quined" yields falsehood when quined.
Sorry--totally meant to send this to the wider list.